Old Korn records had so much intensity.

As Korn go on, it’s the same things – bad childhoods and mean moms. It gets too old after a while. How old is Jonathan? Thirty? How long has it been since he lived with his parents?

It’s fun, working with different people, everybody works differently. When I have time off from music, I want to make other music. That’s what I do, that’s what’s fun, that’s what makes me happy.

We've had a crazy relationship because we've always distanced ourselves from Korn so we could be our own band. Their first record came out before ours, so it was always like we were following in their footsteps. And I think we had to do that, and now it's time to just have fun. We don't care so much about that stuff anymore. We just want to play with friends.

When you hear the first five seconds to a song and you've pretty much heard the whole song, that's kind of a bummer.

That was weird because we were the oldest band there. You see a lot of the younger bands, and it's just a reminder of how things are now. It was a good time, but we felt like grandparents out there sometimes.

I have a feeling a lot of the records I grew up listening to and the records I still like, as hard as musicians worked making them, I feel like they were really enjoying what they were going through. They weren't just going through the process. You can tell that with certain things that you listen to.

It's fun, working with different people, everybody works differently. When I have time off from music, I want to make other music. That's what I do, that's what's fun, that's what makes me happy.

Deftones is always my main focus. I’ve been doing it the longest and it’s definitely a priority. I think of these as projects. It’s not like I’m unfulfilled with a need to find another outlet. I look at it as making music with my friends, and I’m blessed that they’re great musicians.

As Korn go on, it's the same things - bad childhoods and mean moms. It gets too old after a while. How old is Jonathan? Thirty? How long has it been since he lived with his parents?